bolt in 8.8???

[1990JPYJ]

does anybody know where to get them? I know about a year ago i had seen them sold here online somewhere but not 100% sure where at. IF anybody knows where i can get them to bolt in, or knows what site im talking about that would be alot of help.
thanks
cm

[Rubiconrich]

In a 1990 YJ I'd run a Scout Dana 44 rear end differnt bolt pattern (same as CJ) but you can run multi bolt pattern rims or deal with it.

[Rubiconrich]

The 8.8 is not just a bolt in but the Scout Dana 44 is easier to install and cheaper.

[1990JPYJ]

not exactly a bolt in but someone was making them and sellign them as bolt in axles. it was basically cuztom with any gearing, lockers, breacks what ever you wanted he would make, but sold it from a company, with warrenty and all.

[4LWranglerTJ]

i think offroadonly sells 8.8s. At moser engineering and currie enterprises you can custom build stuff i think like ford 9"s. I havnt checked in a while so those may be wrong but i will double check real quick.

[4LWranglerTJ]

ok so i dont know why i said offroadonly- looking at too many winch ropes i guess but it is OK4WD.com: http://www.ok4wd.com/index.php/catalog/product/rock_equipment_complete_88_rear_axle_assembly/

[1990JPYJ]

i think that was the one but i thought you were able to custom the axles more. guess not. thanks for the link

[Bada-Bing.]

8.8 into a YJ, write up and prices http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html



RR why is the scout 44 easier and cheaper to install than the 8.8. Where are you getting this info from? Anyone that runs different bolt patterns front to rear must also carry 2 spare tires.

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v237/127/45/31709574/n31709574_32949385_9814.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v237/127/45/31709574/n31709574_32949384_9509.jpg

[StrongWind]

Another option to consider is finding a D44 out of a late 80's Cherokee.
Same width as the D35 (8.8 is narrower)
Bolt pattern matches the D30/D35.
Can reuse the parking brake assembly/cables.
Upgraded with alloy shafts you get as good or stronger than an 8.8.
Alot of aftermarket support for D44's....

Wheeling it pretty hard for over a year without any problems.....

Below is a link to my writeup I did when I swapped a Cherokee D44 into my YJ - complete with a price breakdown.

http://www.quadratecforum.com/showthread.php?t=67486

[Bada-Bing.]

Putting an axle under a leaf spring vehicle is fairly simple.

Donor axle - $100-400 find one with matching ratio 4.10 w/ LS for you
U-bolt/spring perchs/ shock tabs/ u-bolt plates $115
DS adapter $30
DS adapter bolts $30
Misc bolts/ hard brake lines/ brake line junction/ rtv/oil/paint/ etc $100 high estimate


Possibly need new rotors/calipers/brakes/ebrake depending on donor condition

Some welding and bolting in, hooking everything up.

[1990JPYJ]

I do like the idea of the D44 just cuz of the fact that my next jeep is gonna have the 44 and when me n the girlfriend wheel together only one of us will have to carry a set of shafts. I also think thatthe 44 would be easier to find out here

[Rubiconrich]

I forgot about the XJ Dana 44 Jeep called it a Snow plow package I think?
The Scout Dana 44 is cheap and you could run those muli bolt pattern rims
so you don't need two spares.

[4LWranglerTJ]

I forgot about the XJ Dana 44 Jeep called it a Snow plow package I think?
The Scout Dana 44 is cheap and you could run those muli bolt pattern rims
so you don't need two spares.

i havnt personally heard of those even if they do exist but it would probably be cheaper to swap axles with the right bolt pattern.

[1990JPYJ]

ok back to the 8.8 for a min anybody have any problems with tthe driveshaft lenght on the YJ \. I keep reading that if you dont have a big lift then it will need to be shortened. is this true?

[StrongWind]

ok back to the 8.8 for a min anybody have any problems with tthe driveshaft lenght on the YJ \. I keep reading that if you dont have a big lift then it will need to be shortened. is this true?

Yes

The pinion is "longer" on the 8.8.
The reality is, any axle swap will probably require a "different" driveshaft - shorter than the "stock" one.

Not a bad idea to do your SYE at this time and get the driveshaft "corrected" at that time.

[OhioYJ]

The 8.8 is not just a bolt in but the Scout Dana 44 is easier to install and cheaper.

Justify this comment, otherwise don't say it.

How is a Scout 44 any easier to install? And don't even get me started on front Scout Dana44s, easily the worst choice for a front axle swap that you could possibly choose. But back to the rear, your solution to simplify the installation is to buy new wheels? Why even buy new wheels the stock wheels work fine with the Explorer 8.8. Then on top of that the Explorer 8.8 gets you disc brakes (assuming you buy a later one), then the 8.8 is considerably stronger than a 44. You will break a Dana44 way before you start to stress a Ford 8.8.

So you say buying a Scout 44 (because Scouts are real easy to come by these days) is easier to install, even though it's considerably weaker, has crappy drum brakes, and requires buying new or special wheels to make it work? I think I missed something......

The reality is, any axle swap will probably require a "different" driveshaft - shorter than the "stock" one.

Ditto, no matter what you do you'll need to change the driveshaft. I had to shorten my driveshaft when I put the 8.8 in, had to shorten my front driveshaft when I put the Dana44 in.

I forgot about the XJ Dana 44 Jeep called it a Snow plow package I think?

87-89 with the tow package, had it available. XJ Dana44s aren't very easy to come by either, especially with the way junk yard scrap everything so quickly these days.

[bkrjeeper]

Ohio finally summed it all up. All good and accurate advice.

[Bada-Bing.]

Actually, Ohio. In my TJ, I have the stock TJ driveshaft going to my 8.8 with a standard short arm lift.

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v237/127/45/31709574/n31709574_32891285_4914.jpg

[jphrse]

And don't even get me started on front Scout Dana44s, easily the worst choice for a front axle swap that you could possibly choose.

Sorry I have to get you started, but I found a D44 out of Scout II for next to nothing. Are you talking all Scout D44's? And what are the problems. If it is internal then no problems I was planning a complete rebuild, but if it is in the housing then I will move on and wait for something better..

[Bada-Bing.]

I believe front scout dana 44's are passenger drop

[OhioYJ]

Actually, Ohio. In my TJ, I have the stock TJ driveshaft going to my 8.8 with a standard short arm lift.

Every Jeep is a little different. I wasn't comfortable with how limited the travel was on my rear driveshaft was with the 8.8, so I had it shortened, that's not to say it didn't bolt up.

Sorry I have to get you started, but I found a D44 out of Scout II for next to nothing. Are you talking all Scout D44's? And what are the problems.

If you get the axle cheap, sure go for it. But I wouldn't spend any real money on a front Scout Dana 44. As mentioned it is passenger side drop, has zero degrees caster (means you'll have to rotate the axle "c"s.), and requires you outboard the springs, or grind the housing. Just research what is involved in putting a Scout 44 under the front of your Jeep first, then you might decide to hunt for something else instead (Just depends on what kind of deals you can find).

[MechanicalMayham]

Actually, Ohio. In my TJ, I have the stock TJ driveshaft going to my 8.8 with a standard short arm lift.

I was playing with that idea as well. Mine was 7/8" more compressed, pushed forward or what have you. I was not real thrilled with the angle coming outta the TC. So I am thinking 1"-1.5" MML. I like the look of the angle alot better from some of the pics I have seen. My major concern is also how little compression there is to this set up like OhioYJ stated.

Back on topic for a moment, Lets face it, If your swapping axles out look at it this way. Its a major project as far as its complexity. You not only have to figure geometry and setup placement but also you must now reset all your braking setups. You will be bleeding brakes at the very least, or fabbing up an entire new line route. Not to mention setting the slack adjusters and ebrake work. So because of the overall systems affected I a calling this a complex swap. Now you have to take into consideration your funds, fab skills, shop time and extra materials, labor costs, down time, mechanical abilitys, incidentals, and kit availibility and functionallity not to mention durability and dependability.

So say you find a pre made one complete. Will you need any other materials, brakes maybe? How about the driveshaft, too long, too short? Its not like your going to just throw it under there and bolt it up the go cruise the strip in ten minutes. My 8.8 was freaking heavy! Definetly needed two people to move it, especially up a grade. Don't forget that the Dana 44, even thought it was used on simular jeeps doesn't exclude the fact you may need a new driveshaft and have to redo brakes and such. So here you are with a newly rebuilt complete axle under your jeep, did you add fluid, bleed the brakes, enable the E brakes, ensure there is no interference with other parts, say the shocks or exhaust? Maybe you need a longer trackbar? Take these into consideration as you go forth with your project. Always remember, 'There is always one more thing to do.' Do not overlook anything or take it for granted.

Enuff of this. Rocky, break out the rum!

[1990JPYJ]

after doing alot of reasearch and thinking: I think its time to get a new jeep, axle swap would cost way to much and i wont get any true joy out of it with a 4cyl. so i think this weekend it could be the weekend i make the jump to a D44 with the rubicon package. thanks for the info guys made me relize that its to much work for a 4cyl, lol

[MechanicalMayham]

Petersons 4Wheel and Offroad just had a feature with a TJ sporting a 2.5l.
All ya gotta do is open your eyes and look around:
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/1283556021.html
Also seen one 8.8 w/ 4.88s and a locker but it was for a TJ and he wanted $1200. The deals are out there, don't get discouraged cause they don't run you over on the street. Go to the junk yard and look, I have seen all sorts of deals there.

[Jesse-James]

does anybody know where to get them?

I have one of these Cherokee D44's for sale, sent you a PM.