Roll Call, Pines, Nov 10th

[64Jeeper]

Anyone still interested in going for a short run, then wings and beer at the pic? smile.gif

I'll have a bunch of burn disks with me of past Pine run pictures and videos.

[ 11-04-2002, 05:11 PM: Message edited by: Glass79CJ5dude ]

[holliday]

Ok I am still in on this, but it may just be me this time. Jeff is working nights this week and possibly Saturday also!

[99WranglerGirl]

Blah I work that weekend.

no suprise there smile.gif

[Jeep_N_Hog]

Sorry pine ppl, I have to back out of this one.

Another local toy run. This one's for Abused Children. I can't miss it. I've gone every year.
I MAY be able to shoot down after the run and meet you all for some wings a beer though.

Have fun.

[ 11-05-2002, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: Jeep_N_Hog ]

[Piney]

Definite maybe!!

Hey hog what about the abused old guys? When is that run coming up? :(

[greentjdude]

Originally posted by Jeep_N_Hog:
Another local toy run. i guess you are one of the lucky guys that didnt have their bike stolen last weekend.

i wont be there, i have a long weekend date with bambi's parents :D

[snowpeep]

i will try to make it -- ok, let me rephrase -- i want to go and will try and get out of work for it :D

[Jeep_N_Hog]

Originally posted by Piney:
Definite maybe!!

Hey hog what about the abused old guys? When is that run coming up? :( I think that you may be thinking of the "Lottery". :D

[64Jeeper]

I may be getting new leaf springs this saturday, and if I do, I will be installing them till the wee hours of the morning, so I can go to the Pines,(thats if Santa comes early this year), but reguardless, wether I have my lift on or not, I will be there with those burn disks. So anyone who wants one, be there. :D

[JeepManInNJ]

If we don't have baseball I'll be there. :D

[JeepCJ819]

maybe we'll head down, either in the truck or jeep. i'll let ya guys know. Glass79CJ5dude if ya need any help with those springs let me know...

[64Jeeper]

Well, it looks like Santa will not be coming early :( , so there for I am still going on this run anyway, I'll have to see if he comes in a couple of weeks :D

[holliday]

I just got off the phone with the project manager for the development my company is doing the electrical work on and it looks like I'll be working both Saturday and Sunday now! :eek:
Seems that PECO is having a scheduling problem at this time so we have to get panels hung on 8 houses by MONDAY!!! Along with all the other work we had scheduled for this development it's gonna be a long weekend, at least all my OT gets paid out in cash!

[snowpeep]

Along with all the other work we had scheduled for this development it's gonna be a long weekend, at least all my OT gets paid out in cash! think of it as lift money -- thats what im doing... :D

[holliday]

But I'd much rather be out on a ride, then freezing my ass off pulling wire! Anybody know any electricans looking for work??

[JeepCJ819]

i was an electrician's helper for about a year, and have all types of electronic experiance, but i'm a little out of the way? how much ya payin :D

BTW who all is going on sunday?

[ 11-07-2002, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: JeepCJ819 ]

[holliday]

Originally posted by JeepCJ819:
i was an electrician's helper for about a year, and have all types of electronic experiance, but i'm a little out of the way? how much ya payin :D

BTW who all is going on sunday?Salary is based on ability and expirience but most of our Helpers are in the 12-15/hr range. I definately need some who knows what they are doin when it comes to rough wires on new construction...Its a Ryan Homes project so they are cookie cutter houses with 2 days on a rough and 1 for a final

[JeepCJ819]

well I did mostly commercial work, but the residential crews would steal me from time to time. what area's do you work in mostly

-Ron

[dkh7m]

hey, fyi, there will be a group of us going out to the pines the following saturday. and none other than **** will be there leading the pack if you can believe that crap. he is going to get dirty.

check the thread in OT.

[holliday]

Originally posted by JeepCJ819:
well I did mostly commercial work, but the residential crews would steal me from time to time. what area's do you work in mostly

-RonKennett Square, Longwood, Aston, Media, West Chester Area's in PA and alot of Stuff in Delaware. The majority of stuff that we have right now is in the Avondale/West Grove area, if you'd be interested in picking up some weekend, and I have occasional 3pm to 3am commercial work in Newark DE at a Honda dealership thats remodelling.

[Piney]

****?????? where are you wheeling in Philly? :D :D

[dkh7m]

yep, you heard it, **** will be there. We are not wheeling in Philly, but in the pines, somewhere where Mike Tarsia knows about, but **** is going. should be fun. but that friday and Saturday nights, we will be drinking and carrying on. You should come out. I heard about you Piney, but never was up in that area to meet you.

[Piney]

I was being a bit sarcastic, as usual. Walt’s a funny guy and I’m sure he will get you all in lots of trouble. I see hard jail time in your futures. LMAO!
I don’t think anyone will make it down here to the pines on Saturday, but if you do maybe I’ll run into you. Have a good time and don't get caught drinking in the state forest.

[JeepCJ819]

[/QUOTE] if you'd be interested in picking up some weekend, and I have occasional 3pm to 3am commercial work in Newark DE at a Honda dealership thats remodelling.[/QB][/QUOTE]

Newark DE is a little far, lol I'm in easton, pa. unless the price is right of course, if it was worth my while i would come down for the weekend.

-Ron

[64Jeeper]

Looks like this one will be a small group. So far I have:

Me
Piney (definite maybe)
SnowPeep (Heather)
JeepManInNJ (Mike)
JeepCJ819

And thats it so far.

[kwrangln]

Where is everyone meeting at and what time? My heep finally runs again, time to get it dirty even if I dont have all the new toys installed yet.

Ken

[Piney]

Don't count on me, looks like we are going to the shore.

[JeepCJ819]

Originally posted by Glass79CJ5dude:
Looks like this one will be a small group. So far I have:

Me
Piney (definite maybe)
SnowPeep (Heather)
JeepManInNJ (Mike)
JeepCJ819

And thats it so far.JeepCJ819 (Ron) :D

[JeepManInNJ]

Looks like were on for Baseball on Sun so I'm out. At least its supposed to be warm..Let me know what time you guys will be out till, I might drive down after baseball. We should be done by 12pm.

[60thAnvJeep]

Hey I am still in for the 10th...count me in... :D

[npage]

I think I need a few more scratches on my paint... so count the F150 in

[snowpeep]

i have to work -- so i will not be there -- what time are you meeting just incase i can get out of it at the last minute??

9:30 at the pic?

[64Jeeper]

We can meet at the Pic at 10:00am as usual. For those that don't know, it's the Pic-A-Lilly Inn on 206, about 10 miles south of rt 70.

[Piney]

Are you guys still riding this morning? We came back from the shore last night. I'm taking the wife to church (or maybe she is taking me) and I should be out by 9:30. Just have to go home and change and should be there before 10:30.
My driveshaft is now attached to my diff., so I'm set.

[Piney]

Good small group, nice ride, great people...nuf said! smile.gif

[kwrangln]

Think it will take a week for my feet to unwrinkle. Who would have thought that water inside the jeep would be that cold.

Ken

[64Jeeper]

Hey, sorry I didn't make it today, Terri wore me out yesterday. :D Oops, I mean her lift kit wore me out, I couldn't get my but out of bed this morning.

[npage]

Well it might take a while for my carpets to completely dry out... but it was fun. Next time I might not listen to Piney when he says full size trucks can make it through a pit :) Was a great time though, thanks everyone.

[60thAnvJeep]

Thanks to everyone I had a great time.. :D I appreciate you guys helping me get my jeep unstuck those couple of times..at least I didn't take any water in.

[99WranglerGirl]

lol glass!

how many people went? any pics?

[Tim Crain]

Originally posted by 99WranglerGirl:

how many people went? any pics?Pictures (http://community.webshots.com/user/mightymightycj)

And nobody made it through the TF Memorial Bottomless Puddle this time. :cool:

[JeepCJ819]

looked like fun, i'm definatly bringing the truck out the next run, anyone going out upcoming weekend?

-Ron

[kwrangln]

The pics turned out great.

Thanks Tim.

Ken

[Piney]

One person, who will remain anonymous, said he had never been stuck. What rotten luck...he got stuck...real stuck! :D :eek: :D
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UADeAgoZZfyCoDPvyQYKJmD6i6zAiUMZxl5Vs19yhvzGhwA9* swDC4XxVez7NMAEi69RkotP8ePqUXc1gITdUg8yjhV5WXsXnxr UQojh1Xz*JPO11MAOcYyCmg4ccJoO/f150.jpg

[ 11-11-2002, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: Piney ]

[over2land]

Definately a good time. One of these days, I'll get off my butt and put the CJ back together.

Meantime... Nick, you knew goin into that hole you most likely werent' gonna make it. I mean, the SOA, 35" MTR shod YJ didn't, and dug it up really well in the process of getting stuck, you thought that you could? LOL Hope the rug come clean.

Ken- tried e-mailing you, could be my MSN is FUBAR again... it does that sometimes. If that's the case, you'll get it eventually, if not, shoot me a message, either over2land@msn, or @yahoo....

Jennette... ready for the lockers and lift yet?

[snowpeep]

i am sorry i missed it -- you guys looked like it was a great time -- smile.gif

[60thAnvJeep]

I wouldn't mind the lift next just have to find time to do that and which lift is good for me but in the meantime the lockers would really help me out for next time we all go back out.

[64Jeeper]

Don't look at me for installing that lift. :D

[over2land]

locker.. huh.

hm... let's see.. probably best off with a selectable. I just don't know...

Opinions?

[over2land]

Originally posted by Glass79CJ5dude:
Don't look at me for installing that lift. :D Aw, c'mon Bill... you can do it. You've had practice already.

[greentjdude]

well looks like you all had a good time. i managed to hit bambi's dad (solid 8 point)and was never able to find him after tracking about a mile across 5 different properties. hopefully he is still kicking, i feel bad about it. especially waking up the hung over guy across the road to get permission to track through his property at 9 in the morning. :(

[kwrangln]

Originally posted by over2land:
locker.. huh.

hm... let's see.. probably best off with a selectable. I just don't know...

Opinions?For her jeep, I'd say, probably a tru-track. Cheaper than a selectable (ARB, OX) but still pretty much invisable on the street. They work well and should be fine strength wise up till about 33's (Detroit says 32's). For mostly pines trips, they should serve well. Friend of mine in Va ran them years ago, it was neat to watch him with a wheel in the air, you could actually see it transfer power from wheel to wheel as they spun.

It must have been your MSN messin up, I didnt get the mail yet. Then again my computer is working on taking a big dump on me, think I have to wipe it and start over again.

This trip is looking more and more expensive all the time. I'll put in for a new cell phone tomorrow (Pic #4 is me looking for my work cell phone right after it made a graceful swan dive into the muck for those who werent there). Cleaned the heep today, the exhaust leak is 100 times worse now, think I got some mud in the cat somehow, acts like it is clogged. Makes a hell of a noise and feels like its hitting a rev limiter at about 3000 in first. I'm skered to check fluids, but thats tomorrows battle.

Ken

[Tim Crain]

Originally posted by Piney:

Should be fun this winter when we get some more water out there with a foot of snow on top of it. You guy's do have snorkles don't you?Yup. And flippers, too. :D

[over2land]

I hate to say it... but to me wheeling and cold are not good friends.

I tend to stay inside by a fireplace sipping hot toddies when it's cold out.

Either that or modding the Jeep in the garage with the heaters on.

[npage]

One person, who will remain anonymous, said he had never been stuck. What rotten luck...he got stuck...real stuck!
Yes I have to admit it was my fault I said I hadn't gotten stuck yet, but except for my truck acting up a little right now with the steering its all good.

[60thAnvJeep]

Bill, are trying to tell me that you wouldn't be any help to me if I were to lift the jeep? I can't believe that one smile.gif

So I should only have to put the one locker in the front and not have to worry about the back.. Right?

Ok, I will definitely look into those tru-track if they are cheaper than a selectable (ARB, OX) and the Lockright (since I have seen what they can go over...where I currently get stuck at).
But why would I care if they were invisible on the street?

Question...if I was to go do a 4" lift and would put 35" tires I would have to upgrade the lockers or would I be able to get ones that would be able to work just as well after the lift?

Jennette

[kwrangln]

Jennette, you have the 6 cylinder right? Pretty sure ya do. I didnt ever find out if you had the automatic or not, so I dont know what gears you have, but I remember you saying it had the dana 44 rear axle. For a temp improvement, throw a lockrite in there. Since the lockrite doesnt replace the gear carrier, iit will be reusable once you get the lift and change gears. If you go the trutrack route, you might as well do the gear change first so that you dont end up wasting money. Why care if it is invisable on the street? Rear lockers have a nasty habit of pointing you in direction you dont want to go when the pavement is slippery, such as snow. When you do get the lift and 35's, you will need to change gear ratios to match or you will be rather unhappy with the acceleration on the road (I remember you leaving me in the dust on the way to the store so I know you like to cruise that sucker). So in one fell swoop, lift, tires, wheels, gears, and carriers, could be an expensive weekend.

I usually spend most of my time on this thing on the tech board, and since this thread is getting kind of long and old, try there or just drop me an e-mail if I can help any.

Ken

kwrangln@aol.com

[64Jeeper]

quote "Bill, are trying to tell me that you wouldn't be any help to me if I were to lift the jeep? I can't believe that one"

I didn't say that I wouldn't be any help, but after seeing what's really involved in doing a lift on a TJ, I just mearly stated that it would cost if there was a next time for me to do a lift on one. smile.gif

[greentjdude]

Originally posted by kwrangln:
but I remember you saying it had the dana 44 rear axle. For a temp improvement, throw a lockrite in there. Since the lockrite doesnt replace the gear carrier, it will be reusable once you get the lift and change gears. you can't throw a lock right in there if it has trac lok in it now. the powertrax no-slip has one that works with the trac lok carrier but i think it costs almost as much as a trutrack or detroit. make sure there is an open carrier in the rear, not trac lok.

[60thAnvJeep]

Originally posted by kwrangln:
Jennette, you have the 6 cylinder right? Pretty sure ya do. I didnt ever find out if you had the automatic or not, so I dont know what gears you have, but I remember you saying it had the dana 44 rear axle. For a temp improvement, throw a lockrite in there. Since the lockrite doesnt replace the gear carrier, iit will be reusable once you get the lift and change gears. If you go the trutrack route, you might as well do the gear change first so that you dont end up wasting money. Why care if it is invisable on the street? Rear lockers have a nasty habit of pointing you in direction you dont want to go when the pavement is slippery, such as snow. When you do get the lift and 35's, you will need to change gear ratios to match or you will be rather unhappy with the acceleration on the road (I remember you leaving me in the dust on the way to the store so I know you like to cruise that sucker). So in one fell swoop, lift, tires, wheels, gears, and carriers, could be an expensive weekend.

I usually spend most of my time on this thing on the tech board, and since this thread is getting kind of long and old, try there or just drop me an e-mail if I can help any.

Ken

kwrangln@aol.comI have a 4.0 and it is a manual.
I was just was trying to give you enough room so you could get right behind me that's all..hehe
There is a lot to consider and remember when you go to add something new. Wow ;)
I think I have a lot to learn here...but thank you for your help.

[60thAnvJeep]

Originally posted by Glass79CJ5dude:
quote "Bill, are trying to tell me that you wouldn't be any help to me if I were to lift the jeep? I can't believe that one"

I didn't say that I wouldn't be any help, but after seeing what's really involved in doing a lift on a TJ, I just mearly stated that it would cost if there was a next time for me to do a lift on one. smile.gif I was just picking on you... :D that's all..I know what you are saying though $$
I think I need to hit the lottery over here to solve that one.

[YJorBUST]

me and Michealturtle1 are doing my 4.5" XJ lift this weekend so after that i'll know how to put lifts on and i could most likely do it ;)

[60thAnvJeep]

Originally posted by YJorBUST:
me and Michealturtle1 are doing my 4.5" XJ lift this weekend so after that i'll know how to put lifts on and i could most likely do it ;) That's cool you can let me know if you had any problems doing it. By the way what manufacturer and type did you end up picking up?

[YJorBUST]

i went with the best one of them all.. the Rubicon Express 4.5" extreme duty kit with full sping packs and all of the bells and whistles

[60thAnvJeep]

NICE..a lot of people have been telling me that the Rubicon is the way to go when picking out a lift.

[YJorBUST]

i will vouch for either the Rubicon Express or Skyjacker, i had the skyjacker on my YJ and man that rig rocked.. got through everything the big dogs did even though i was only at 2.5" of lift

[zachv]

Jennette, call Tim Hagar for your RE stuff. He is real close to you plus he is offering sick deals on their stuff. Tell him Zach V. from Iron in the Pines 4WD club sent ya.

I would be glad to help you out with the install, as I am only 20 minutes from you, but I don't them for free anymore because they are a PITA, plus you really have to know what you are doing. Ask some people what pinion angle is or what the proper torque value is for the bolts and they have no idea. Remember, it is your life and others you drive with.

[60thAnvJeep]

Originally posted by zachv:
Jennette, call Tim Hagar for your RE stuff. He is real close to you plus he is offering sick deals on their stuff. Tell him Zach V. from Iron in the Pines 4WD club sent ya.

I would be glad to help you out with the install, as I am only 20 minutes from you, but I don't them for free anymore because they are a PITA, plus you really have to know what you are doing. Ask some people what pinion angle is or what the proper torque value is for the bolts and they have no idea. Remember, it is your life and others you drive with.Thanks I will give him a call when I figure out which lift I want to get. I agree you really have to make sure you have everything done right the first time. Someone was telling me that I would need to have a tip test done if I put a certain lift on...is that right?